After former Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway appeared on Sean Hannity’s show on Monday night, it left a lot of people scratching their heads. Her claim that there had been no supply chain issues during the Trump administration was belied by mountains of evidence that America experienced first-hand.

MSNBC host Stephanie Ruhle took the opportunity on Wednesday to take apart Kellyanne’s claim piece by piece. Conway had said “We never even heard of a such of a thing. There was no supply chain crisis. There was no inflation.”

But Ruhle wasn’t having it. After conceding that inflation is indeed up in America, she hit back at the claim that Trump never oversaw shortages like the shipping crisis we’re experiencing now:

Remember, Covid hit when Trump was president, and generally speaking, supplies and prices are steady because of business planning and absolutely no one planned for a pandemic. And that is the situation that we all find ourselves in.

But to say that Trump’s administration never heard of supply issues is a flat-out lie. We all saw and experienced empty shelves. Mass shortages of cleaning supplies and toilet paper when the lockdown started. And that is not to mention the mask, glove, and ventilator shortages we saw in hospitals nationwide.

But keep in mind everything about the way we live, work and consume the way we buy stuff has changed during COVID. Look at your front door. We have a lot more Amazon, Walmart and other boxes from e-commerce purchases today than we did two years ago. Well, that cardboard that all those boxes are made of, that’s going to come from somewhere. So it’s natural we would face these shortages.

Kellyanne is pretty well-versed in bold-faced lying on television. But only in a safe space like Hannity. When it comes to facts, she’s stuck at sea.

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